Kuyuti Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 Now you are just drawing away from the main argument >.>;; I mean trying writing anything about RO without mention qualities fromt he original? The fact is this server comes from the Original which was based on a low rate -.-; I mean regardless of what you think these is a modified server- Not a brand new server- So instead of closing your mind and throwing out Red Herrings and building Straw mans :/
Kuyuti Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 It won't because "Nerf" is a bad word here :/
Millenia Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 stop assuming i think fRO was built from scratch. kay, sorry for having RO knowledge of less than a year and fRO being my second server but am I that stupid? no. if you dont like ws get some fcp up on dat shit. and no, i wasn't drawing away from the 'argument' "im just saying im fed up of you guys being like, ON LOW RATE ___ ISNT MEANT TO BE LIKE THAT!! RO DIDNT MAKE ___ SO THAT WOULD HAPPEN! NERF, NERF, NERF! LETS COPY LOW RATES!" kthanks.
Kuyuti Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 I don't know everything about RO either and It just seems that is what you were pointing too and I'm not QQing, I'm just trying to state the point of this argument. I mean you can be tired of hearing something but it doesn't change the Validity of the statemnet
Terroryst Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 Alright Im not sure if this have been proposed before so here goes the idea: Full/Partial Nerf to the WS card IDK MAN IDK.
Millenia Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 wasnt acusing you of qqing. you have a point.. but it just gets annoying seeing all the HR/LR shit. :[
Kuyuti Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 And I'm annoyed by faulty arguments, except my own ^.~. :)
xBiscuit Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 Thread is over. WS is never going to get nerfed. x____x
Kuyuti Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 "Oh look there is a bird over there! Ok Let's close this thread because I saw a bird!" <.<; I mean seriously if this was a joke thread I would understand but he actually has made a valid point and I have as well and as of right now there hasn't been once decent counter argument >.>; I think thats a reason to keep this open.
darrendota1 Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 dont nerf plis! no fun anymore when ws card nerf!! :( hehe
Amitsu Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 i think i need to caps lock but lets try to not go there we say low rate low rate low rate low rate low rate low rate low rate low rate(OMFG I SAID LOW RATES YOU'RE NOT GONNA READ THIS ANYMORE) shit because we need to balance it out. stop forcing every topic into some shit joke that's not even next to funny. 195 aspd literally makes the chance to ws near 100% or break within 2-3 seconds. low rate has natural max aspd of 190 and like no class ever reaches that high anyways. in low rates its all about using skills. high rate and low rate is different. if you're not bother reading your a fucking ignorant cunt. Being straight forward, not a direct insult of any sort. you can get WSed EVENTUALLY but before that eventually happens, you can kill the person. gonna happen whne you get WSed in like 2 seconds? no. its not evne worth the fight. some people can't dual client for fcp. think about others with disabilities, not just yourself. the thing is, the cards are set and are meant to be for LOW RATES. If you can't even understand that then why are you arguing at all? Why do you base your knowledge off of nothing? P.S. fcp is temporary, and not everything is easy to get for a lot of people. it may be easy for you but WE ARE NOT YOU. Look at me, i don't get a fucking god damn whitesmith rsx or some other shit so easily. AND I wouldn't assume shit before it even happens. Nor would I argue off of just plain assumptions when people you're arguing against have full information. Which i probably do.
Kuyuti Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 In a more vulgar way Dreams has made his point clear as well lol >.>;
Amitsu Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 i say it in a vulgar way because if i don't, people don't understand.
Kuyuti Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 I agree sometimes I feel without the use of the caps lock key people just won't simply read what I have to saw >.>;
Amitsu Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 I agree sometimes I feel without the use of the caps lock key people just won't simply read what I have to saw >.>; :D
Avalon Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 I would say that the kind of extended battles or ygging battles on this server are heavily dependent on armor, because they prevent an instant death from high rate friendly skills like Asura Strike or Martyr's Reckoning/Sacrifice. With the rate of ASPD, the WS card easily negates the advantage of ygging for the other player. Also, melee characters, who can inflict the most hits in the shortest amount of time, gain a considerable advantage over classes that are dependent on skills, especially ones that are not physical. It could take a while for a Bowling Bash Lord Knight to break armor, compared to an Assassin Cross who could break an armor in less than a second with dozens of hits within a few seconds. I would prefer the percentage lowered to preserve the longitivity of battles, since I've found that even a 1% chance has a great chance of occurring with 195 ASPD; proof of that is in coma blades.
Kuyuti Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 I agree the Edge Comas plenty of times ~.~. Another Valid point. ^^ And trust me Armor Breaking is definitely something that can change the sway of the battle easily. Not everyone has FCP either, This may however Discourage TSS Breaking~
Sorrow Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 Majority, if not all, of the people here are talking about PvP. *reads all the posts after Nite said that* i guess you're right.
Evasive Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 lols this thread should be under rants instead of suggestion. i could predict that you were on some assassin cross class that couldn't kill at all but to top it all off were WSed every time you attempted to kill someone, and weren't bright enough to use elite weapons and RSX or even better, glistening bottles that go around for like 600:20. 20 coupons for 600 rounds of fcp... 30 minutes of hunting yggs then selling them off would buy you a supply of around 3+ weeks of fcp to counter ws.. not only that but ws being one of the only things giving most noobs an upper hand in battle since they catch pros off guard. you nerf the card and you take down a huge chunk of the server. to people without fcpers, you know, nerfing or removing won't solve much but create more controversy, why not you go in-game and do something instead of come to the forums and cry about it?
iRawr Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 lols this thread should be under rants instead of suggestion. i could predict that you were on some assassin cross class that couldn't kill at all but to top it all off were WSed every time you attempted to kill someone, and weren't bright enough to use elite weapons and RSX or even better, glistening bottles that go around for like 600:20. 20 coupons for 600 rounds of fcp... 30 minutes of hunting yggs then selling them off would buy you a supply of around 3+ weeks of fcp to counter ws.. not only that but ws being one of the only things giving most noobs an upper hand in battle since they catch pros off guard. you nerf the card and you take down a huge chunk of the server. to people without fcpers, you know, nerfing or removing won't solve much but create more controversy, why not you go in-game and do something instead of come to the forums and cry about it? /offtopic Da hell? Half an hour to get 20 qpons worht of ygg's?. It takes me like a whole day to get 35 qpons worth of ygg's. /ontopic I agree with Sorrow. Nuff said.
*Kevin* Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 Sorry but .. made my day . No . And the reasons are millions , don't make me list them all , also because many other players already pointed them out .
Kusanagi Posted March 13, 2009 Author Report Posted March 13, 2009 lols this thread should be under rants instead of suggestion. i could predict that you were on some assassin cross class that couldn't kill at all but to top it all off were WSed every time you attempted to kill someone, and weren't bright enough to use elite weapons and RSX or even better, glistening bottles that go around for like 600:20. 20 coupons for 600 rounds of fcp... 30 minutes of hunting yggs then selling them off would buy you a supply of around 3+ weeks of fcp to counter ws.. not only that but ws being one of the only things giving most noobs an upper hand in battle since they catch pros off guard. you nerf the card and you take down a huge chunk of the server. to people without fcpers, you know, nerfing or removing won't solve much but create more controversy, why not you go in-game and do something instead of come to the forums and cry about it? Meh, few people hav been able to kill me 1 on 1 and I dont give a damn about they use ws or not, but for most people thats not the case. I believe people have already made list of the reasons and arguments of why should be Nerfed.. And the reasons are millions , don't make me list them all , also because many other players already pointed them out . List your "millions" out . For god sakes I will count them, and if I dont see a "million" then stfu.
Kusanagi Posted March 13, 2009 Author Report Posted March 13, 2009 I just added a poll, first of all I myself will count the opinions in the topic, so If I see more votes in one side that reply's, those extra votes will be counted out.
