Barrack Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 ok. imagine u stayed in pvp for like the whole day trying to rank up to number one u finally got to rank number one and u planned to sleep/rest for the day (while you are sleeping woe was going on) when u wake up. and log on ro. the 1st thing u see is this person 500 ppl ahead of you. just because they killed ppl in prt_gld woe. do you see that as fair? not so. and how about this. GM's say they will watch ppl who free kills around there. now. WHAT IF. you just TAKE OFF. that ladder kill count in PRT_GLD??? Less Burden on the Gm themselves. its seriously bugs me. when someone who is'nt even working hard in the pvp and just kills ppl in prt_gld while woe'ing.
Millenia Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 To sum up your post up: WoEers do not deserve to be ranked because they don't do anything. Yeah, nice logic.
Cirrus Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 WoEers do not deserve to be ranked because they don't do anything.Lol, ranking on in alde and pay pls.
Amitsu Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 To sum up your post up: WoEers do not deserve to be ranked because they don't do anything. Yeah, nice logic. no one said that and that's not the case. he's saying its unfair to people who actually did something in pvp but someone who does woe gets higher because of the load of kills they get from just spamming 2 buttons at an entrance. i'd put more thought into what you type
Millenia Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 no one said that and that's not the case. he's saying its unfair to people who actually did something in pvp but someone who does woe gets higher because of the load of kills they get from just spamming 2 buttons at an entrance. i'd put more thought into what you type That's the impression I got from his post, and you got the complete opposite impression. Take into consideration everyone takes posts differently before asking me to 'put more thought into what you type'.
Dragon Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 The way I see it, Payon and Alde needs it's ranking turned on inside the castle or the ranking removed from prontera. Just to make it all fair.
Kuyuti Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 People do things during WoE I think killing in WoE counts just as much as killing in the Pvp room lawl. Escept Killing in WoE is a bit moer of a challenge( because of WoE reducts). He is basically saying that because he is a pvp room guy there shouldnt be any Woe Pvp. Which I will just Lawl at ^^
Cirrus Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 ^ That's an irrelevant argument. >.> Let's just say camping warp points is an "easy" way to get kills, because some unprepared people really do WoE, but that's the same as those ungeared people going in PvP, and keep going back in a futile attempt to kill you. In WoE, those ungeared people's numbers are just greater than people who go in PvP, hence, more kills, and that goes on for an hour. I go with what Dragon says, either you turn if off in Fadhgridh, or you turn it on in both Sacred Altar and Hohenschwangau. I'm more for turning it on in the latter guild castles though.
Kuyuti Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 Same but I mean running around with devo and 3 sinx and a champ in the pvp room while taking off the soloers who just want to come in there for pvp or Abusing Root / ganging is just as easy as spawn killing on a GS lol
Tiago Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 I think ranking should only be on in the PvP rooms. It would be fair like that, and since no one's been going to the PvP rooms lately it would make more people go there.
Amitsu Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 Same but I mean running around with devo and 3 sinx and a champ in the pvp room while taking off the soloers who just want to come in there for pvp or Abusing Root / ganging is just as easy as spawn killing on a GS lol no because people have the choice of not going to pvp. they have the choice not to go woe but they choose to because it's a castle, therefore they go anyways. and not only that, loads of people tend to enter and die almost immediately, unlike pvpv where they can just run around and prevent them from getting the kill. pvp =/= woe
Barrack Posted March 3, 2009 Author Report Posted March 3, 2009 People do things during WoE I think killing in WoE counts just as much as killing in the Pvp room lawl. Escept Killing in WoE is a bit moer of a challenge( because of WoE reducts). He is basically saying that because he is a pvp room guy there shouldnt be any Woe Pvp. Which I will just Lawl at ^^ yeah lawl at it while i pwn you in pvp cutie. and fyi. its easier to get kills in woe than in pvp. which is definitely not fair. and yeah im pvp type cos' sadly. i woe as a defense on a different char. <_< I think ranking should only be on in the PvP rooms. It would be fair like that, and since no one's been going to the PvP rooms lately it would make more people go there. yeah. agree. since prt_gld map has a pvp count its basically saying "hey why need pvp room when there is prt_gld?!?!" come on. if that map is active as a pvp room. Might as well take off pvp room and let everyone go to prt_gld. i prefer prt_gld take off the pvp counts. To sum up your post up: WoEers do not deserve to be ranked because they don't do anything. Yeah, nice logic. no. that's not what i'm saying. They deserve to get the rank. BUT they dont deserve to take that rank easily. if they want to get a rank then let them face the bad guys in pvp. its driving me nuts to see this each week. like I, i wasted like hmm... i think 40ygg tix for 1day? 200 edps and 50 fcp's: 1day:200kills how about woe ? hmmm if i woe and do pvp ranking in prt_gld it would be 1day 20ygg tix, 20fcp, 50 edp. 1day:600kills see the difference?
Kei Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 i agree on this :( like, i stay in pvp room almost all day (sorry no life here ahehaehae) and yeah the items wasted... is just nuts when in pvp room. i wasted more than that i think ._. idk.. and it bugs me out of no where comes out this random person as top 3 in pvp after woe, while i was trying to protect the castle at pay_gld as a hw. :( I say take off the prt_gld kills. they are there to woe anyway, not to get kills. it makes me wonder why was prt_gld considered a place to get kills in the 1st place ._.
Guest icy Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 no. that's not what i'm saying. They deserve to get the rank. BUT they dont deserve to take that rank easily. if they want to get a rank then let them face the bad guys in pvp. its driving me nuts to see this each week. like I, i wasted like hmm... i think 40ygg tix for 1day? 200 edps and 50 fcp's: 1day:200kills how about woe ? hmmm if i woe and do pvp ranking in prt_gld it would be 1day 20ygg tix, 20fcp, 50 edp. 1day:600kills see the difference? Then during woe go kill people in prt simple as that
death... Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 OMG I only knew this fact in this topic. Now I know where the hell do the top 3 winners get their kills(although not all). And yeah, it's unfair. I agree on removing the PVP in prt_gld than activating the PVP in pay_gld and alde_gld.
Amitsu Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 there are people who live in not your time zone and can't make it to woe.
death... Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 Like exactly me, who can only join in Euro WoE. I'm thinking if it counts on pvp kills too. :huh:
Kuyuti Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 I actually know a few those people and they still get on for WoE /qq. WoE is pvp. I mean I think it should be extended to every castle but regardless of what you see WoE = PvP. Mainly because you are against another player and what not. Its like Capture the flag on Call of Duty- Every kill you get still goes up on your count the objective is just different. I mean if WoE wasn't pvp then it would just be someone running up to the emp and hitting it and then the other guild waiting till it breaks ect. There is PvP that goes on in WoE so please QQ more. Now if there was some way to remove the PVP glitch there to where it only activates in WoE I'm all for that and if there is a way to include the other castles I'm all for that too but to sit here and cry about how you lost your PVP ladder because you failed to go to WoE or you failed to have a Guild that WoEs well I mean come on O.o. Maybe you could move WoE Kills to a different Ladder /qq for all the people out there who no-life the pvp room but never go to WoE but meh. WoE = PvP Lol and in most games PvP points are counted on the fields and almost anywhere so I don't see why having one WoE area as a pvp area is soo upsetting but meh maybe its because I haven't no lifed The PVP room lol :/. Few times I have been here there I have noticed how easily unfair it is but still... W/e Lol
Barrack Posted March 3, 2009 Author Report Posted March 3, 2009 I actually know a few those people and they still get on for WoE /qq. WoE is pvp. I mean I think it should be extended to every castle but regardless of what you see WoE = PvP. Mainly because you are against another player and what not. Its like Capture the flag on Call of Duty- Every kill you get still goes up on your count the objective is just different. I mean if WoE wasn't pvp then it would just be someone running up to the emp and hitting it and then the other guild waiting till it breaks ect. There is PvP that goes on in WoE so please QQ more. Now if there was some way to remove the PVP glitch there to where it only activates in WoE I'm all for that and if there is a way to include the other castles I'm all for that too but to sit here and cry about how you lost your PVP ladder because you failed to go to WoE or you failed to have a Guild that WoEs well I mean come on O.o. Maybe you could move WoE Kills to a different Ladder /qq for all the people out there who no-life the pvp room but never go to WoE but meh. WoE = PvP Lol and in most games PvP points are counted on the fields and almost anywhere so I don't see why having one WoE area as a pvp area is soo upsetting but meh maybe its because I haven't no lifed The PVP room lol :/. Few times I have been here there I have noticed how easily unfair it is but still... W/e Lol im sorry for thouse who cant attend woe cos they live in other country. *cough* woe is differnt from pvp, mind you. <_< woe= war of empurium (objective is to get a castle and get caslte drops) Pvp = person vs person (objective is to fight strong and prepaired players and get pvp boxes)
Kuyuti Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 Woe is still Person Vs Person. I mean correct me if I'm wrong but everytime I WoE I end up having to fight against another Person. And personally I know people that live in differetn countries and lol they still make it to WoE, mind you its like 1am +++ Where they are :) several people actually. WoE is like CTF and on Halo CTF is still a game that you play against other players ^.~ (Or KoTH)
xBiscuit Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 its seriously bugs me. when someone who is'nt even working hard in the pvp and just kills ppl in prt_gld while woe'ing. Are you kiddin' me? QQ. I think killin' people during WoE is a good idea. People don't have to waste their time waiting for people to go in PvP room. Also, hard work in PvP? So, you're saying the person doesn't have to use skill during WoE to kill people? EDIT: woe is differnt from pvp, mind you. <_< woe= war of empurium (objective is to get a castle and get caslte drops) You funny as hell. WoE = Kill people so they won't take your castle Think outside the box. :)
Barrack Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Posted March 4, 2009 Are you kiddin' me? QQ. I think killin' people during WoE is a good idea. People don't have to waste their time waiting for people to go in PvP room. Also, hard work in PvP? So, you're saying the person doesn't have to use skill during WoE to kill people? EDIT: woe is differnt from pvp, mind you. <_< woe= war of empurium (objective is to get a castle and get castle drops) WoE = Kill people so they won't take your castle well yeah also that. but why would you want a castle in the 1st place if there is nothing to get?... reputation? I'm sure people want a castle just for items. seriously. yes. well look here. woe is just woe. The goal is only to keep the castle. nothing else. pvp is different. you have to face people who are strong as you and show you can kill majority of them. idk man. but maybe the reason why you think it's a great idea to have pvp in prt_gld is because you do that and your just not up to face people who are your size. just my opinion.(duh much?) no. People obviously use skills in woe. but what i'm saying is that its easier to get kills in woe. its unfair. ESP when its only in prt_gld. (what about pay and alde??) so yeah let me repeat myself. -take off ladder kills count in prt_gld -less problem for the GM's (how so?... They wont need to go to prt_gld time to time to see if someone is free killing) -more fair -keeps the reason why there is a pvp room. "People don't have to waste their time waiting for people to go in PvP room." ^Oh, they have to waste their time if they want their wing mind you.^^^^
death... Posted March 4, 2009 Report Posted March 4, 2009 Hmm, I suggest to remove the 'ladder kills count' from killing people in prt_gld not the PvP itself.