A new MVP

[Kuyuti]

While I am sure this will get rejected it is still somewhat of a good idea, or so I think. Every Major MMO has some type of MVP type Mob: Raid bosses, Notorious Monsters, ect. But aswell in every MMO there is always a Boss type monster that is almost to the point of epic. Like it takes 30mins-2hrs to kill and it relies on multiple classes to kill and strategy and ultimately team work. Now I am sure ROs orginial intent was to make a boss like Thanatos to be sorta of like this but I think in the high rate scenario we lose sight of MVPs like that. I mean every MVP in the game is soloable, except for the one at the top of Endless tower(Correct?) which isn't as Epic as you'd think.

So with the Premise being set I was wondering if the devs could Come up with some MVP of this magnitude?

I mean they have already shown the fact that they can create MVPs so why not make this one? And of course it would have to drop something good at a lower rate than normal mvps :).

For me I was thinking along the lines of a-

-Tons of life, like 1bil++?

-Changes Elements, randomly or on cue. I'm sure Cue maybe a bit easier(Thanatos Script should contain this)

-Summons Other MVP(full MVPS but no drops) To be its minions, Like different MVP to make the fight more challenging. And Make the minion respawn be like <1 or <2 so they have to pick which MVPs to kill and which one to stay alive.

-Make it a forced timed spawn(LIke Thanatos)

-Make it spawn in a newly made custom area, Maybe a place like for_dun02? Maybe you would have to make another quest to obtain a pass to get there and another quest to get the spawn item(which the quest can only be done once a week for each char).

-I think it should have like 4-10 hour spawn window so people don't constantly camp it.

-For drops I suggest making a new card that drops at maybe 1% and is good and make it drop all of its minions cards at a 5% chance rate O.o so this MVP is well worth it. And maybe even it can drop some Custom Armor(Like F.King and belts?)

- I think whenever it is spawned no one should be able to warp/gain access into the area in which it was spawn. So there is a chance you can actually fail. I.E. you have to go to for_dun02 to get to where it spawn and it warps you to for_dun03 and then that is where it spawns and no one is allow in for_dun03 while the MVP is up?

Now before people say this will lower the prices of things consider that this MVP is made not to be easy it is made for a whole guild to take down like 20-30 people? I'd like to see it utilize every class, like giving it skills to break/strip armor. so that way people will bring FCPs and people will bring Blacksmithes because if they leave to repair armor the won't be able to come back. People will also bring priest for Ressing and healing. I think if the Devs do make this the MVP needs to seem Unbeatable to people will actually have to formulate strategies to just kill it. Also give it like Reflect so the Champions have to rely on the Profs to dispel and give it other skills like Pnuema and Safety wall so the tank will know to move it and what not.

I don't know but I think this is very very possible considering what the Devs have already done. And as for Sprite making I beleive Morroc is unused and can easily be color editted.

Personally When I play a Major MMO I dream of fighting and beating the hardest boss in the game and honestly I have.... sO that is why I think a New Special MVP should be made. I dunno if you don't like this idea Flame on but personally I think it is great and it will spark some very interesting Guild Building activites.

[Millenia]

So basically you want an MVP where people have to team up in order to kill it?

Y'know, for that kind of thing we have Endless Tower.

And in all seriousness 1 sniper could take out MvPs with 1bil hp.

[Kuyuti]

I said ++ and endless tower isn't as epic and it is announced the second it opens so people take that right away and the MVP in endless tower has how much hp, Im sure it oculd have more hp but I dont think a sniper could take out a MVP with other MVPs as its minions and without dieing once? I don't think soo... I really don't think so. Also not mention that the MVP will do alot more damage? I don't think you understand what I meant :/

Like it has to be literaly epic where guilds and what not try to think up strategies..

[Devotion]

I've been wanting an ultimate MVP for a long long time as well. Satan Morroc was meant to be it, when it's done. And even the few that have fought him on Fro say he's pretty difficult. But I know what you mean. You want it to be a real adventure, with different quest angles and many areas of difficulty. This idea frankly makes me excited to think about, because I'd have the perfect MVP (It would need to be made of course), the Divine Dragon from The Legends of Dragoon. That thing is huge, and he's a really awesome boss.

I think what you want is an MVP that can do major skills, can pass through FCP and break everything, spawns hard bosses himself, etc. Well I think the idea is Epic. I have never sprited something on that level. It would take a LOT of my time and probably cause me to QQ a few times. But look, if you can come up with a lot of details on how to make the boss extremely challenging for our server and all the steps of the quest, and have it approved by Genesis, I'll think about it.

[Kuyuti]

Well I have the creativity but not the testing ability. I know I will need Genesis'/Zeitgeist approval before I go into further detail. Thank you for agreeing your word means a lot ^^

[xain]

this would be absolutely amazing, like seriously major win for this idea. have it roll through all the elements so you have to actually pay attention, close attention to what you're doing. and maybe be able to regen massive amounts of hp? omg this would be absolutely great. an MVP's MVP the drops would have to be on the most epic of levels to be worth it though you're right about that... still this would be awesome.

[Halion]

Yo Kuyuti, I totally agree to this suggestion.

I hope Genesis approve this :(

That way we can kill this mvp together >:D

[Lucius]

I know a few servers with Satan Morroc and all those new things already out there..

[Amitsu]

everyone can solo an mvp here. regardless of stats or w/e

its just time consuming

[Devotion]

Unless the quest required you to be with at least one more person when you did it :)

[Dart]

You show me a class that can kill a MVP dealing 200k damage per strike at 190 aspd and has over 1,000,000,000 hp. Yes I added in the damage he can deal and aspd, but it would make it all the more epic.

[Devotion]

Here's a question though: What happens when someone completes the quest. Do they have to do it all again to get to the final MVP?

[Kuyuti]

It will work like Thanatos somewhat so yes.

As for the fact that someone can solo any MVP it is just time consuming. Again let me state this.

When the MVP spawns the room will be closed. It is unwarpable into only by a NPC Therefore it will be literally impossible to solo this.

Also considering the high damage it will be doing and the fact that it will have Auto Endure. I doubt this will be soloable :D

Edit:: To get into lets say "for_dun02" they only have to do that once. But to spawn it it must be done over again. Each character will have a time limit to of course :)

[Amitsu]

priest cant heal 190 aspd and 200k per hit. say hello to 500k berries down the drain.

half the people will die in 1 hit.

[Maiku]

lol idk I kinda like this idea maybe a uber mastering XD in fcity! NO SKILLS omg @_@ that's rape LOL super teamwork

[Yusuke]

You show me a class that can kill a MVP dealing 200k damage per strike at 190 aspd and has over 1,000,000,000 hp. Yes I added in the damage he can deal and aspd, but it would make it all the more epic.

I guess you don't know much about MVPing... Doesn't matter his power, have you seen Randagris or LK mvps or even Kiel? They hit hard on most of people, real hard but they hit me 1 1 1 1... so yeah it was just for example. Same with Sniper ( So yeah he can solo it) , And Of course if the quest asks for 2 people or more to do it, someone can always dual client and more to do it alone and kill it alone.

[Devotion]

I guess you don't know much about MVPing... Doesn't matter his power, did you seen Randagris or LK mvps or even Kiel? They hit hard on most of people, real hard but they hit me 1 1 1 1... so yeah it was just for example. Same with Sniper ( So yeah he can solo it) , And Of course if the quest asks for 2 people or more to do it, someone can always dual client and more to do it alone and kill it alone.

That would be Randgris*

Anyways, the MVP can be made to be able to hit hard regardless of other things. That's why this MVP would be uber. And if he changes to ghost then Champions would be useless at times.

I'd also advise you not to tell people, no matter who, that they don't know what they're talking about. It's tiring and ignorant. But don't take that the wrong way. YOU seem to miss the point that we want this MVP to hit hard regardless. If you thought about the fact that we're on a High Rate for a moment you'd realize they're not made to be incredibly difficult MVP's. Soloing Randgris on a Low Rate is almost impossible. And yes I've tried, with the best gears on that server, and we ended up having at least 5 main players there, also with the best gears on the server. That's what this MVP would be: So hard you'd HAVE to bring others.

One way to do this might be to disable ygg berries on the MVP map.

[Yusuke]

Well if you want it to hit us like 200k as someone said there, you would need to put 1000000ATK to that mvp, no kidding in order to do that, if that even possible, because your missing a strong secret about mvping so yeah.

Disabling yggs will just make it annoying and no one will mvp it. You die in one hit , then warp back , die again in one hit , again rewarp, and it will take a hour to kick 1M from it lol, not talking about it having 1B HP (Maybe even more).

[Devotion]

Well if you want it to hit us like 200k as someone said there, you would need to put 1000000ATK to that mvp, no kidding in order to do that, if that even possible, because your missing a strong secret about mvping so yeah.

Disabling yggs will just make it annoying and no one will mvp it. You die in one hit , then warp back , die again in one hit , again rewarp, and it will take a hour to kick 1M from it lol, not talking about it having 1B HP (Maybe even more).

Well, it's "you're" not your :P

The whole point is for this MVP to be ridiculously challenging. But 200k hit and no berries is a bit cruel. If we lower the Hit, and perhaps give a delay on how often you can use berries, then there will still be a need to have paladins and HP and profs and a lot of other classes with you. I mean we're not going to go through all this trouble just to make a solo able MVP. Where's the fun in that?

I might not know everything about MVPing, but I know what fun is :P And a challenging game gives pleasure to so many players, especially in Fro. And if you find it too hard you don't have to do the quest. Cmon it's not that hard to understand ^_^

and PS: If we don't allow ygg berries on the MVP map, there's always white pots ;)

[Kuyuti]

Omg People Stop saying this is soloable* I keep telling you guys over and over again That once you enter once and the MVP is spawned YOU CANT ENTER THE ZONE AGAIN UNTIL THE MVP DEPOPS in other words if you die or the two people die then guess what?????? YOU CANT COME BACK. IT ISNT SOME WARP BACK GAME LIKE EVERYOTHER MVP.... WHICH MEANS WHAT? IT ISN'T SOLOABLE -.-;;;;;; UGH.... Lol... Just ugh....

[Yusuke]

Ok laugh at my english all you want, I know it's bad.

The thing is, if you do such a mvp, You will need to make like 10 MVPs at least to make it fun and not just 1 party of the same people that gonna kos the mvp and camp him all the time. If you want to make hard mvps, I suggest to make all of them ghost properties because after all sniper cannot use shield what will make mvps hit them harder, but sure not any other property or it will be easy, believe me.

[Kuyuti]

-Tons of life, like 1bil++?

-Changes Elements, randomly or on cue. I'm sure Cue maybe a bit easier(Thanatos Script should contain this)

-Summons Other MVP(full MVPS but no drops) To be its minions, Like different MVP to make the fight more challenging. And Make the minion respawn be like <1 or <2 so they have to pick which MVPs to kill and which one to stay alive.

-Make it a forced timed spawn(LIke Thanatos)

-Make it spawn in a newly made custom area, Maybe a place like for_dun02? Maybe you would have to make another quest to obtain a pass to get there and another quest to get the spawn item(which the quest can only be done once a week for each char).

-I think it should have like 4-10 hour spawn window so people don't constantly camp it.

-For drops I suggest making a new card that drops at maybe 1% and is good and make it drop all of its minions cards at a 5% chance rate O.o so this MVP is well worth it. And maybe even it can drop some Custom Armor(Like F.King and belts?)

- I think whenever it is spawned no one should be able to warp/gain access into the area in which it was spawn. So there is a chance you can actually fail. I.E. you have to go to for_dun02 to get to where it spawn and it warps you to for_dun03 and then that is where it spawns and no one is allow in for_dun03 while the MVP is up?

Much much harder I have a list of skills aswell....

[Devotion]

uuhhh Yusuke, not to be rude, but you should read the main post ^^ We're thinking of an MVP that rotates properties (yes to ghost as well).

Ah, second thing, we are thinking of making more than one MVP :p

And third (if you read the topic), this will have a time limit and an after delay, like thanatos. And I'm sure we can find a way to make it so that camping is a pain in the ass. As for KSing, only the party of the person who does the quest to open the final level will we warped. And if we were all reading, then we'd all know that the MVP map is not warpable xP

[Yusuke]

So you have to make the place to work exactly as endless tower, so only the party members who summoned him. can get back in once they die. And rotating is a bad idea because someone can go champ if he knows how to mvp well, and he parties on other account his sniper and maybe some pally for devo and gospell in third (Paly - Not neccessery), summon it for himself and pwn it :P but nvm all this.

The thing is once it's not ghost , it will be easy to kick it , it becomes sniper and he goes on sniper and hit it until it changes again and continues from champ until it dies, simple as that. So to make it really hard to kill, make them only ghost types , then it will take long time to kill it + if it's strong enough , you might need some people with you.

[Lilium]

If possible, have it constantly change type?

And anyway, anyone willing to go and make a sprite for it?