Idea for a new Pvp System

[Kusanagi]

Alright I posted this Idea in another thread but it was oficially not a sugestion acording to rules posted by Zeitgeist, so I decided making a solid thread on the Idea Itself since it didnt seemed bad to me at all.

Well for starters, the point was to implement the oficial pvp rooms that exist in ragnarok online, you can check how they are by going to the main inn of most towns (most know are pront and morroc).

There you speak to the pvp master to acces the central of the pvp rooms (why not make it a npc that gets you there but its located on F city)but before they ask you one of 2 modes:

yoyo= free mode thus your kill's do not count

nightmare= penalty mode, your kills count and when you die theres a certain penalty.

the penalty in the orinal is equipment drop but thats something people woulnt want to do and thus rendering useless the idea on itself so I though:

there could be a diferent penalty for Nightmare mode, for example there could be a special nightmare mode in wich your deaths arent count bout every death reduces your kills by 2 and once you reach 0 points you cant enter any more.

Like lets say,

"A" person enters nightmare mode with = 10 kill points, A person is killed 5 times by "B" person. then you cant get in anymore because your counter is 0.

In the contrary

"B" person got 5 kills wich is 15 points for him and he can stay for as long as he wants until the counter is reset and everyone kills are set to 10

I would say this arenas would serve as a special pvp ranking... umm maybe instead of a prize for winners why not make depending on the points they got?... like: you need to reach a certain number of points to get "A" item but the npc will only talk to you if you are at least the number 10 in the nightmare ranking, also another npc that gives small prizes for those who are not in rank 10 or less (nothing really big... ygg tix maybe stuff as such)

The reason why will be really hard for people to cheat is exactly because they cant kill a person without limits like in our normal pvp (once they dont have points they cant get in after all and also there should be a lvl requierement of 255 to get into nightmare mode).

Also no parties allowed to get in.... mmm maybe as a last thing the deaht penalty could be zenny as well?

Of course its just a sugestion but I find it pretty good dont you? ...

Sumary:

1- you can acces to the lobby room of the pvp arenas thought a npc in F city

2- You choose either yoyo or nightmare mode in the same npc at fcity

3- once in the lobby you cannot access to any pvp room unless you are out of a party

-rules of the nightmare mode-

1- you must be lvl 255 *also maybe other optional requisits like being elite of your class*

2- you start with 10 kill points, as you kill you win points but if you die you loose 1-*2* points

3- If you run out of points you will be warped out of the room you will be warped out.

4- If you have 0 points you cannot get inside any room in nightmare mode

5- you can be resurected inside the room but still you will be warped out If you get to 0 points

-Prizes-

1- There will be 2 npc's for prizes one will only speak to the top 10 while the other will to any other

2- Unlike in the normal lader everyone can get a big prize but they need to have a certain number of points and be in the Top 10.

3- There will be small prizes for those who are not top 10

4- In case you dont have enough points for the top prize there should be smaller prizes so your points dont got to waste

5- All kill points will be deleted after a week of ladering (or maybe to make it diferent from our ladder you can make it monthly)

Extra Info

This has nothing to do with the original Ladder this will be as an extra Nigthmare ranking

[death...]

I guess I have to read it carefully ._.

[xBiscuit]

so, your basically saying.

kill = items or prize.

same thing as we have now. LOL.

go climb the ladder.

and, no parties? where's the devotion.

and, what if i have a friend im teaming with?

what if i hit him?

i don't agree. :[

[Kuyuti]

I think I like this Idea like a Nightmare PVP Ranking and a regular PVP ranking system? Would you start with lets say 10 points a week? And would their be a limit and no party or ganging rule included? I think that would be necessary XP.

[Lucius]

Summarize this suggestion...

All I see is heuhuehuaheuaehauehuaheuahuhe..

[Kusanagi]

Here I sumarized it for you and added it to the post itself

Sumary:

1- you can acces to the lobby room of the pvp arenas thought a npc in F city

2- You choose either yoyo or nightmare mode in the same npc at fcity

3- once in the lobby you cannot access to any pvp room unless you are out of a party

-rules of the nightmare mode-

1- you must be lvl 255 *also maybe other optional requisits like being elite of your class*

2- you start with 10 kill points, as you kill you win points but if you die you loose 1-*2* points

3- If you run out of points you will be warped out of the room you will be warped out.

4- If you have 0 points you cannot get inside any room in nightmare mode

5- you can be resurected inside the room but still you will be warped out If you get to 0 points

-Prizes-

1- There will be 2 npc's for prizes one will only speak to the top 10 while the other will to any other

2- Unlike in the normal lader everyone can get a big prize but they need to have a certain number of points and be in the Top 10.

3- There will be small prizes for those who are not top 10

4- In case you dont have enough points for the top prize there should be smaller prizes so your points dont got to waste

5- All kill points will be deleted after a week of ladering (or maybe to make it diferent from our ladder you can make it monthly)

Extra Info

This has nothing to do with the original Ladder this will be as an extra Nigthmare ranking

[Lucius]

Oh ok.

I disagree, this can be easy to abuse.

[Millenia]

I only read your summarized post because your first post is somewhat messy. Anyway, it sounds like an edited versions of iROs PvP - instead of losing items you lose points. It seems pointless and would make the PvP Arena useless.

[Kusanagi]

Oh ok.

I disagree, this can be easy to abuse.

Tell me the way it can be abused, really I would like to know.

I only read your summarized post because your first post is somewhat messy. Anyway, it sounds like an edited versions of iROs PvP - instead of losing items you lose points. It seems pointless and would make the PvP Arena useless.

The point of this from the beggining is to make more interactive arenas than the one we have, thus making pvp more general and not so exclusive for people with gears who can still go to the normal rooms and go for the normal ladder.

:suicide_anim:

[Millenia]

I think I'm missing your point here. We have two arenas for non-donates and donates, we don't need anymore PvP ladder bs. Anyone with crappy gears can go to thor, payduns, and kill someone with as equally shitty gears.

[Kusanagi]

exaclty thats the point, they go aim for those who are lvling usually, also the original pvp rooms have a much wider space making more interesting the pvping and giving space for everyone to fight.

In the rooms we have now people just go randomly hoping the can do something before being ganged (be serious you think there's no ganging ._.).

[Millenia]

In the rooms we have now people just go randomly hoping the can do something before being ganged (be serious you think there's no ganging ._.).

The people leveling should be fully aware that fRO is a PK server, I doubt they are surprised when they get PK'd.

Ganging will always occur in ALL PVP ZONES.

Adding new PvP 'rooms' will not fix that problem.

Hell, I get ganged 3 vs 1 in one of the PvP rooms and used my common sense and asked a friend to help out; serious pwning occured but that doesn't make me think, 'OH! NEW PVP ROOMS WILL FIX THE GANGING PROBLEMS!' No.

[Kusanagi]

Unlike that.. yes It will patch ganging, the orignal rooms... have you ever seen them?, are full towns if you want to fight everyone you go to the center, If you want to have a fight with someone else just go to corner where no one will bother to find you...

Currently we have 4 walls with a stand in the center how can you avoid being put into a "seek and destroy" list.

and Yes Fkro is pk server, but with more places to pvp, the pks will reduce to the peple who are lvling (meaning they will fight on equal ground), we cant do anything about the leechers killing the people lvling but still its just another patch.

[Millenia]

Waste.

Of.

Time.

[Kusanagi]

alright we got the @duel arena aprove so guess that fixes a lot xP.

Still people please not only vote, give your opinion too =(

[Tiago]

The PvP rooms are just good as it is.

If you want to PvP without having your Kills / Deaths counted, just go to for_fild, anthell, thor or even pay_dun. There are plenty of people to fight you out there.

[Kusanagi]

I do... and they usually call for the whole guild to kill me thus I have to kill them on the spaw while running from the others >.<.