Kusanagi Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 Well I bet everyone know just how underpowered super novices are.... I mean 20k hp... wth, no one deserve such nonsense... In the last server I was they made special wings that only SN could use and give "hp/sp x 5" that was the only way they could balance the huge hole in the novice class... Im not asking to be done the same way (although I believe its a good choice), but a least something to be done, like making the super novice chant buffs work better... or well other options
Lucius Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 They're not meant for battle by any means, I disapprove with this. They're not even a class, they're Novices.
I3eefCak3 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 it would be cool to see sinx geting killed by super novices! i argree! XP
Lucius Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 it would be cool to see sinx geting killed by super novices! i argree! XP If that was to happen then you would know that the server has been completely thrown off balance.
I3eefCak3 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 what if they were to balence super novice then it would be fine i'm not saying make super novices like mvps but make them more balanced so they have a chance in PvP or MvP or even WoE
Lucius Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 what if they were to balence super novice then it would be fine i'm not saying make super novices like mvps but make them more balanced so they have a chance in PvP or MvP or even WoE Super Novices were created to have fun with thus giving them (almost) every ability of the entire 1st class branch. Super Novices are balanced perfectly for the server's work, note how they are still considered Novices but just with a few boosts, but hey, why not just give normal Novices around 400k more to make up for their inability to use skills? No. Super Novice If you want to play a 1st class with powerful abilities, play Ninja or Gunslinger, they're branched off under the same prerequisites of a Super Novice. Edit: My replies are only to beefcake, he wants them to be balanced out with every other Transcendent classes.
Kusanagi Posted February 2, 2009 Author Report Posted February 2, 2009 Gee, super novices WERE meant to battle, low rates, mid rates, hig rates Super Novices have enough resourses in skills to actually fight but the hp they have is useless compared to any other class and the SP they have dont allow the the use of skills at high rate lvl (use 2 skills and then berry?). Most super novices can be considered a mage class that already makes them unbalanced against other classes but with the HP they have even a Mage can do better.
Millenia Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 >Novice >Novice >Novice >Novice >Novice >Novice >Novice >Novice :D
Kuyuti Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 Super Novices are a playable class. They aren't just ment for fun :/
Kusanagi Posted February 6, 2009 Author Report Posted February 6, 2009 Dont forget about the topic =(, more opinions?
Lucius Posted February 6, 2009 Report Posted February 6, 2009 They aren't meant to be threats in PvP, this upgrade would be a waste of time.
Amitsu Posted February 6, 2009 Report Posted February 6, 2009 i think that would be cool but just to mess around, duel wield staff like in FF3 lol. or let them use 2nd class skill or somethin iono
Sorrow Posted February 6, 2009 Report Posted February 6, 2009 On a low rate, a good super novice is able to kick serious butt. Average palladins in a LR can have up to 22k HP averagelly speaking of a tanker pally. Super novices can acheive 4k hp with not that much vit when they reach lv 99, which by the way is more than the average professors and high wizzards. They are meant for fun, well, fighting other players while having a fair(even being smaller than others) chance to win, still is fun. And pvping is a main activity in this server. HALF Hour is needed to get a transclass max lv here. On this server, sorry but transclass is no different than the others, i mean...baby characters(forever non-trans) get huge stat bonuses as compensations for the skills of their trans counter parts, so yeah, super novices have potential. It's a waste to classify them as "Novices" and totally forget about them. Is a 100k HP Novice that much of hassle that the experienced players can't handle? i vote for a big Yes in the poll...
Amitsu Posted February 6, 2009 Report Posted February 6, 2009 yea i mean cmon. are you guys that scared to get raped by a "novice" jesus
» Pat Posted February 6, 2009 Report Posted February 6, 2009 What he said. Why do you even care if they're so weak? Durr.
Ethereal Posted February 6, 2009 Report Posted February 6, 2009 Well they can be boosted in one way or another but, they're alright as it is. I just play Super Novice for fun with Flee/PD and people actually run from it when they can't it hit... >>;. So personally, I don't think they're meant for battle.
Avalon Posted February 6, 2009 Report Posted February 6, 2009 Maybe we could keep their HP/SP the same and let them use 2nd Job skills xD.
Born2punish Posted February 6, 2009 Report Posted February 6, 2009 I don't see why not. They're a job too. They're just Super But Novice. I know novice have very tiny amount of HP. But you know They want to pvp sometimes too well... not to say MVP. But yeah making them as strong as transclass will be a bit of an abuse But yeah I don't see why not.
Methamphetamine Posted February 6, 2009 Report Posted February 6, 2009 Heh, Super Novice is the only class I haven't played on HR yet, mainly because until recently backpacks were Every Job Except Novice. Looking forward to pvping on one, I remember raping on a baby swordsman with ice pick + bash. :3 I used to play an instant cast SN on lowrate, in addition to my instant cast (with buffs) wizard, was pretty fun. For the record my wiz had 6k hp before trans and 8k after trans, survivor's rod / survivor's manteau combo etc. My SN had ~6k hp using incubus / succubus combo and the super novice set etc.
Lucius Posted February 6, 2009 Report Posted February 6, 2009 Novices are supposed to suck. Note the name, Novice. Super Novice just means that they super suck.
Kusanagi Posted February 8, 2009 Author Report Posted February 8, 2009 Nah I remember in other servers Super novices where a potential threat I even remember a normal novice fighting mvps jaja (well that guy was an exeption... He made a High novice 255... 100x/100x rates...).
Seuri Posted February 8, 2009 Report Posted February 8, 2009 Sunos really need the boost :O At this point, they fall behind on everything and they can't even compete in PvE. Unranked taekwon > suno :(
