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It depends on the requirements to obtain them by quest. If you make it seriously insane, people would still rather buy it from other players. I personally would rather farm 2-3k items for 1x spiritual whisper than spend money/tok/or whatever.

This might be a stupid suggestion, but in my eyes it's at least somewhat smart... lol I suggest that you make certain items used for quests such as 9x Spiritual Whisper for the Blessed/Cursed rings quest obtainable by other means. My idea for this is to make them available to be quested for, but make the required items and insane quantity. I know, some of you might be thinking that this could be abused by bots, but I also suggest that these specific Spiritual Whispers (and required quest items) not be tradeable so that bots are 100% out of this suggestion. My reasoning for this is because not everyone likes to buy their quest items from other players and would rather obtain them on their own like myself. The only problem I have with getting some quest items is that people farm the mobs that drop them so much, it's nearly impossible to find them and even have a chance at getting the item. If you like this suggestion, but would recommend something be different about it, please feel free to share.

Sell Gray Vanagard Helm [???Tok] or Trade for Blue Cat Ears. Please leave offers here.

It seems like you guys are completely missing or simply ignoring the point behind this suggestion. The idea is to not have to worry about the inconveniences of typical spam testing such as asking people if you can test in for_fild or going from one plant to the next in yggdrasil. With test dummies you can sit there and spam on one target non-stop until you are satisfied with your spam capabilities. There's really no need to try to avoid the suggestion by stating other alternatives, because obviously, we all know there are numerous ways to test your spam. This is simply suggesting something more permanent that won't/can't move or kill you or die.

There literally are no cons about this suggestion. (Other than a little bit of time to create the room/mobs/scripts) All in all, this would benefit all players new and old. If you're a veteran player but you took a long break, just stop by the spam test room to get your A-game back and then get out there and kick some butt. If you're new and you want to test how good you are with spams, same thing (just maybe without the kicking butt part lol).. I also would recommend that instead of your idea of plant mob with lots of hp and only takes 1dmg per hit, do something more on the lines of a realistic pvp type mob with average demi-human reductions so that you can test your damage while your at it and maybe be able to make a few tweaks to your build. All things to take into consideration, but overall this is an idea for spam testing mainly, not damage testing. :)

And for melee? Pneuma wont help test your spam capabilities for SB/Asura/etc.

Simple suggestion here... I would love to see a room full of unlimited HP NPC's that are attackable (or something of the sort) so that people can test their spam capabilities on new classes so that they can practice without worrying about being interrupted by other PvPers.

Unfortunately, I have tried linking myself and to no prevail. After I linked myself I was still only able to get an occasional 2 SB in the spam. I believe that having a 95% reduction before Soul Link is pretty much required to be able to spam SB anywhere near decent enough to kill.

I find it a little ridiculous that most non-donation sinx are having to resort to the old F.Katar due to the lack of spam rate of SBK with the L.Katar. My suggestion is add [Reduce After-Cast Delay by 5%] to the L.Katar so everyone can actually use that instead of the old F.Katar! (:

Okay, so I read through all the posts and I must say, most of you are a bunch of babies. It was said multiple times that this isn't permanent and that something will be done to make up for the loss of spam. I also saw a few good suggestions, the first being a Ghost Bullet; (Good increase in damage, yet easily countered.) That suggestion all depends on what the final fix decision is though. Second, I saw something in there about the fact that Desp is not the only skill effected and that Rapid Shower is damn near useless now too. That's only half way true though. My GS has always been my favorite class and probably always will be. I know how to play it very well, and even with the nerf, I still kill fairly easily. I do still agree though that since Rapid Shower is not the skill that is causing the server delay in WoE that it should not have the same delay. My suggestion on this is if there is a way to make the Kiels effect only Desp with the 75% aftercast delay and leave Rapid Shower with the 90% it should fix that problem, but then the first suggestion of Ghost Bullets would make Rapid Shower OP which means only one of the two suggestions would be able to be implemented. Another fix for that problem would be to increase the damage of Desp by about 15-25% through Vali's Destroyer and L.Gun. If anyone see's any flaws in this, please read it over again to make sure you don't misunderstand what i'm saying and please, provide some feedback. :)