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Hopefully soon Gen or someone who can put an end to all of this will post a reply. Then all you people who are complaining because you lack the will to do anything about it will be silenced. My guild is the way it is because myself and other people work long and hard to make it that way. All I see is people, who choose to play on an American based server, complaining about things they do have the opportunity to change but lack the will to do so. How about trying to look past yourselves for a change and see what everyone else is saying. I know there are many people who can gvg because they always ask me to join for gvg. If the people who are against this actually put some effort into the event at all instead of just sitting it out I might consider what you are saying but you do not so I wont. Your logic is that because people, who choose to play on a server way outside their timezone, may not be able to get these items by taking part in gvg these items should not be special for those who spend their time to obtain them. What makes the people who made such a choice more special than those who made a reasonable choice? Do you expect to buy a house (because you cant build your own due to circumstances) and then have the government make people, who work hard and build their own, create it just as your own? I doubt that very much. Last but not least whether new items are added or the current items remain, according to you, people cant participate right? I guess I will just control all that anyway then yay me?

Do you know every persons schedule? Apparently you do since you know who can and cant attend gvg. First off there are tons of people who can attend gvg and used to do so but now they stopped because the effort is not worth the rewards. White and teal stuff is only expensive now because it is still semi rare due to the lack of numbers of them. Sooner or later they will be common. If people dont care about gvg as you say then why would a euro gvg attract people to gvg? This makes zero sense. A new item? What are your obvious reasons? Many people have certs and a lot at that so what you are saying again makes no sense. Last but not least my personal wealth has nothing to do with this suggestion. Like I said before if this is not changed then I still get to win all the time hence either way it is good for me and my guild. You need to look past the fact that you dont want to put effort into doing gvg to get the items from it and see that this suggestion has no down sides to it. I am not going to discuss further with you about this because so far you have raised not one single good argument so consider this my last response to you. Let us see what Genesis and the other gms, who decide if to accept or deny the suggestion, has to say.

Things have changed since that time. Some of the new rs have no walkspeed delay for example. Right now there is no competition for gvg which leads to one guild dominating it. If there was a real need for the gvg items then there would be competition for sure. This is just one point I raised in this long thread. Regardless if it is not changed and everything is left as is then said guild will continue to dominate gvg with no problems at all and then what "rich gets richer etc etc blah blah" (uncontested) ? At least I am trying to make it less one sided by trying to get some competition.

Looks like you clearly read any of the posts made here except not really. The reason we dominate gvg is because people dont take part. This change is an incentive for people to take part in the event since the effort they put into it will reap more than just new coloured items. Read, attain some facts and knowledge, before you come here and post your neanderthal comments please.

No one event is made to satisfy everyone because the time zones obviously are different. As it was stated many times this server is an american based server even though it tries to provide for other players. I dont believe that changes should be made based on who dominates any event. The fact is that the rareness associated with the rucksacks is a very limited concept. With no real advantage to having these rucksacks people do not try to win gvg because there is no need for it. That is why gvg is currently dominated by said people. Last but not least as you have seen in my post before the 5% increase is a tiny amount of damage not even 10 000 at most. I dont see how that undermines frigs completely at all.

I use the same client as you are using most of the time. Usually in windows mode you can just set it to be a small square but resize it yourself. That is how it works for me anyway not sure if this helps. Other than that you can try changing your desktop resolution and see if it will let you choose a different size then. Hope this helped!

I think all points have been raised! Lets wait and see what Gen and the other higher gms have to say now.

There! Everything nice and summed up in one.

There are already rucksacks with no walk speed delay hence the suggestion of the other additions.

Well since I cant convince you all otherwise maybe showing you guys might help! I tested out asura with zod and skull aura (zod having a 5% dmg boost and skull aura not both with +20 stats) to see the damage difference it would offer. The difference with full asura, I mean everything to up asura you can wear with no outside buffs, was 7k damage. Here are the screen shots. http://img5.imageshack.us/f/screenforbidden433.jpg/ http://img694.imageshack.us/f/screenforbidden435.jpg/ http://img846.imageshack.us/f/screenforbidden439.jpg/ http://img851.imageshack.us/f/screenforbidden440.jpg/ The first two are with skull aura to show the damage with it since it has +20 stats and no 5% increase. The second two are with zodiac aura since it has +20 stats and 5% damage. As you can see the damage increase is tiny. For a month of work I think 4-7k extra damage is atleast justified.

Every rucksack has a different colour are you saying that one colour is better than another? I think that would be a very personal choice among people however unique effects are a different story all together. If each colour emp did +20 to all stats but blue emp did +25 which would people wear? Regardless of colour the choice is only obvious. My point is that if it were changed people would look at gvg as something they need to do to be at top tier pvp rather than something they can do to be pretty much the same as anyone else who does not gvg and the addition is small and does not require alot of work to do.

There is no "best" class some classes are better than others but when it comes right down to it the right item combos are what matters for most pvp scenarios.

Look at it this way, right now there is no real advantage of doing gvg. Yes you get a rare rucksack or imp valk but the fact is that their stats are the same as the ones you can get easily otherwise. This is a major part of why people dont put any real effort into doing gvg because they can simply get another rucksack or imp valk/ gold valk that does the same effect. Now if the items were better like what I am suggesting then people would want to have the best items and this will lead to more people taking part in gvg. There is no downside to adding an extra boost to the gvg items and even if it takes months or years to spread around dont you think by that time there may be better items out? I doubt we will stay the same forever.

I consider spending all my free time in the pvp room hard work yes. I dont know if you know this but time is not something you get back. Either way not everyone that has alot of items got it by laddering so your post is just rediculous. Try leading a guild and dealing with all that is involved and then come tell me something. You make it out as though it is set in stone who wins ladder/gvg/woe without even considering how much work is put into these things by the various people. You do not know what it takes to get/earn one of these items so to you it will unbalance everything apparently. Frigs shield does 5% more reductions than f shield among other things why is this not a problem to you? The damage increase is not going to make anything unbalanced and infact it would help a little for example in woe for the people who have them/will get them.

You people who are talking about the "rich" how do you think they got rich? Not by sitting in fcity and doing nothing all day. People work for their items some harder than others. If you are not rich you have only yourself to blame. Let us drop this "rich" none sense and focus on what is suggested please. The main idea here is having the rucksacks from gvg changed to be better then the other rucksacks because of their difficulty to obtain.

I just want some difference for the work thats needed to get these rucksacks. Like you say hard working players who know what to do etc put their time into this and there are more benefits than just having better items as stated before. I agree that being richer or poorer has nothing to do with it. For those who spend their time to do gvg and win there should be something worthwhile that wont be reduced to little or nothing over time.

When the rucksacks are common over time then what? Even now you have a rare rucksack that has the same effect as the most common ones. This is why there is no competition for gvg. No one wants to take their time to try to win it because whats the point? You have to win for a month straight to get 1 single "rare" rucksack that does nothing special. Then people say one guild is monopolizing gvg? Fat joke. We wouldnt be able to if people gave two craps about the the rewards of gvg and actually tried to win.

First off to stop you there I already have given 3 of the rucksacks as soon as I had the certs for them and the point of them being better than the rest is simply because you work way harder to get them. Would you woe if you could quest/donate/vote for the same items? Hardly. The reason one guild is "monopolizing" gvg is because no one cares to go against them as the rewards are not worth the time/effort required. If that is changed then you will have more people trying to win gvg. These rucksacks are already expensive and people do not buy them just like that because not many people can simply afford one so the price will no go up higher than it is. Try using rune of power with its 8% damage and compare 5% is really not much. It is more to just say that these rucksacks are worth your month of winning gvg for more than the looks. This is a simple, easy to implement suggestion that could very well lead to more competition in gvg and would not change the current pvp scenarios much at all seeing as quite a few people already have these rucksacks. P.S I would not mind the adding of new items to gvg either. White/teal emp would fit since there are white/teal valks and rucksacks.

Oh and what I forgot to say about this too is that it is a tiny change! Not much work at all to do yay!

I can see what you are saying but the way I look at it is this, with the item slot ruck sacks take up, it will make people consider more the help of having more damage movement speed and stats with these rucksacks than lets say a sacred wing for reductions. Classes that want to do more damage will take advantage of the rucksack and be open to more damage by not using a reduction type item for the slot. At the moment +10 stats is not much compared to what I am suggesting along with all the other benefits. In the past items were made on reduction type stats a lot, time for some damage stat items!

It isnt a lot. For a month of winning or 6000 - 7000 tokens in my opinion it is justified.

Well I was a bit late on finding this out but apparently there are some rucksacks that have no walk speed delay. My suggestion is to have the guild vs guild white/teal rucksacks changed to +10 all stats +5% all damage and +5% magic attack with no walk speed delay. These ruck sacks are by far the hardest ones to obtain and should be better than any others if all rucksacks already dont have the same effects. Also maybe this will spark more participation in Guild vs Guild as well. It is a simple suggestion please just agree or disagree!

I agree with both suggestions. While it will benefit some people more than others it still gives a chance for people to get new items. Just like when emperium auras were new and guildmasters were the only ones who could get them these items will spread around eventually.

If you are now starting off as a guild do you want to be handed a castle? You are new so you really cannot expect to have it all easy. Every guild has to work hard and build up to occupy a castle. Recruit people and work on a defensive strategy. Then you will see the importance of safety wall and just how fun woe can be. Starting off is always hard but it can be worth it if you keep at it. I disagree to disabling safety wall in woe.

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