Procastinate Posted October 21, 2013 Report Posted October 21, 2013 Please Bring Back these Sacred Wings to its Glory days just like what you've done for the Emp aura for example. hmm maybe adding few additional something would be better and in this way it can also be separated from fluffy wings..hmm my suggestion would be •10% reduct •3-5% HP •-2% Vit Def •+10% Walking Speed Anything to add or subtract Guys?
jameslamela Posted October 21, 2013 Report Posted October 21, 2013 +1 so that people will be encourage on using their colored sacred angel wings... my suggestion effect is: 10% reduct from demi humans 5% HP -5% vit def +7% walking speed
Halion Posted October 21, 2013 Report Posted October 21, 2013 yah that works, so they can be useful again and not just a fancy item
ChainBreak Posted October 21, 2013 Report Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) I think the suggested effects would be very strong, maybe too strong. Your suggestion •10% reduct •3-5% HP •-2% Vit Def •+10% Walking Speed ND ring stats: -Walking speed +7%-Reduce Damage taken from Demihumans by 3%-Reduce Vit def by 5%-HP +5%-SP +5%-Reflect 3% of damage-All Stats +7 That would be almost as much a a ND ring which imo is a bit overkill. Maybe something like - 10% redux - 3% HP - 5% reflect Edited October 21, 2013 by ChainBreak
Norse_Joog Posted October 22, 2013 Report Posted October 22, 2013 Strong but in a defensive way. So I think it would be fair enough for the player who can only afford Sacreds rather than Rings so +1 for Sacred Wing improvement ^^
Kayla Minerre Posted October 22, 2013 Report Posted October 22, 2013 I actually disagree with this most of this. It gives 10% reductions on ALL damage, which means 10% damage reduction per damage type. For those of you unfamiliar with what that means, it is as follows: 1. If you are fighting a sniper a. 10% against Ranged Damage b. 10% against whatever element you're using c. 10% against demi-human type monster d. 10% against medium sized monster 2. If you are using a melee class a. 10% against Physical Damage b. 10% against whatever element you're using c. 10% against demi-human type monster d. 10% against medium sized monster That is a total of 40% reductions against any type of attack from any class. There's a reason it doesn't have a slot or any additional stats, Honestly, the fact that the Laughing Poo Poo hat has a slot makes it overwhelmingly OP.
Procastinate Posted October 22, 2013 Author Report Posted October 22, 2013 I Have tested this Reduct of the wings and as far as what's happening it only reduces up to 10% no matter what class job or etc. so i think this really need improvement
Shadi Posted October 22, 2013 Report Posted October 22, 2013 I actually disagree with this most of this. It gives 10% reductions on ALL damage, which means 10% damage reduction per damage type. For those of you unfamiliar with what that means, it is as follows: 1. If you are fighting a sniper a. 10% against Ranged Damage b. 10% against whatever element you're using c. 10% against demi-human type monster d. 10% against medium sized monster 2. If you are using a melee class a. 10% against Physical Damage b. 10% against whatever element you're using c. 10% against demi-human type monster d. 10% against medium sized monster That is a total of 40% reductions against any type of attack from any class. There's a reason it doesn't have a slot or any additional stats, Honestly, the fact that the Laughing Poo Poo hat has a slot makes it overwhelmingly OP. Wrong, You can not stack up the 10%'s with each other. Ragnarok calculations don't work that way. It does take 10% of each from the base damage, This in no way means it adds up to 40%. If your stacking calculations were correct, you could wear usakoring fshield, sacreds and laughing poopoo hat to have way over 100% reductions. Each racial/size/element/etc is calculated individually based on base damage and thus you can not combine the 10%'s. I personally agree with boosting the sacreds or making them a requirement for a better item. However the suggested stats (to me) don't seem as much of a boost for me to prefer the sacreds over lets say a cape or ring.
Procastinate Posted October 22, 2013 Author Report Posted October 22, 2013 Exactly, Computations don't work that way as what Shadi said.hmm making it as a requirement to another thing, like capes to ring. can also be. and Just adding Boost to it would be greater. so basically for me adding boost will be much more of help.Please Continue Supporting and Thank you!
Procastinate Posted October 30, 2013 Author Report Posted October 30, 2013 BUMP! Supporters Support this thanks!
Rayray Posted October 30, 2013 Report Posted October 30, 2013 I myself am a big fan of the sacred wings. Here's the thing, no one uses the pvp room simply because the rewards are not worth it. Buffing the sacreds, and let us add the RAW as well, will have a big impact on the ladder.
Sensation Posted October 30, 2013 Report Posted October 30, 2013 I can see potential in this suggestion. If this would make the PvP ladder more competitive it would be awesome as an addition to this suggestion.
shonea Posted November 4, 2013 Report Posted November 4, 2013 Please Bring Back these Sacred Wings to its Glory days just like what you've done for the Emp aura for example. hmm maybe adding few additional something would be better and in this way it can also be separated from fluffy wings..hmm my suggestion would be •10% reduct •3-5% HP •-2% Vit Def •+10% Walking Speed
Procastinate Posted November 4, 2013 Author Report Posted November 4, 2013 Lol shonea. thats what I've said. Word by Word -.- sigh
Norse_Joog Posted November 5, 2013 Report Posted November 5, 2013 This is a nice suggestion hope this will be updated soon and this will also encourage more players back to go PVP ladder
Procastinate Posted November 6, 2013 Author Report Posted November 6, 2013 Jack is right, this will also make people go to ladder in order to have the sacreds.
SquidySquid Posted November 7, 2013 Report Posted November 7, 2013 Just add a card slot for both raw and sacred wing.
Procastinate Posted November 10, 2013 Author Report Posted November 10, 2013 that can also do adding slot. with attributes
SquidySquid Posted November 15, 2013 Report Posted November 15, 2013 Not sure bout attributes. With a slot, you will be able to use 3 kiels + f. soldier. Hmm. Perhaps +3% hp/sp will do.
Rayray Posted November 15, 2013 Report Posted November 15, 2013 ^ Eidelic wing has a slot anyway. Giving sacreds a slot still makes it miles away from either the rings or eidelic.
Bishop Posted November 15, 2013 Report Posted November 15, 2013 Adding some bonusses and a slot would definitely give the sacred wings and raws more use. It would bring back some incentive to Ladder. I can definitely agree with that. This could be an option or perhaps we can create new wings (quest) that requires a sacred/raw to create an improved version of the wing? Keep in mind the above is just my personal opinion. Whether something like that would be possible is up to the admins :).
ChainBreak Posted November 15, 2013 Report Posted November 15, 2013 I think the quest idea might be good. Like the other storyline quests they should use the RAW/Sacred as catalyst to create a better and improved version of the item. Maybe something like a quest Eidelic or maybe even a completely new gear would be nice. Some suggestions for the looks: CD in mouth (huehue) Cherry Twig in mouth (>=] ) The one in the upper left corner here: The one in the upper right corner here: Only if it's doable of course. :3
Procastinate Posted November 17, 2013 Author Report Posted November 17, 2013 I also can agree with GM Bishop there and Chainbreak make it like Capes, used as a requirement but what can be the upgraded boost be like?
benchiiie Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 Since FRO has been releasing Storyline quests, why dont you include this plan in the next update?and i agree with sacred wings and raws to be a requirement for making another quest item.
